Forth200x meeting 2026-09-02..2026-09-04

Participants

Krishna Myneni has been readmitted as a voting member by unanymous decision.

Meeting transcript

Notes taken by AE

Votes of officers

Next time in 2028 (Last time in 2024)

Review of the minutes

Accept Minutes of Last Meeting in 2025 in Hamburg: Vote #41 10Y:0N:0A

CfV issues

CfV for Recognizer committee proposal 2025-09-11 is fixed.

Allow system version in system votes.

Discussion about how to make CfVs known: Use comp.lang.forth. A mailing list at forth-ev still works. Also use chat.forth-standard.org, channel Standard. Also put it on the front of forth-standard.org (web site). Announce the CfV system once; anyone interested in CfVs should subscribe to the CfV-announcements channel.

Create channel and announce it (Action: AE)

Review of Procedures

Progress of current work

Document update (last draft is from 2019)

See report from editor

Do the interim meetings help?

Yes.

How can we speed up our work?

We can now quickly deploy standard documents (not fully automated for now). CfVs are working again.

How can we better serve the Forth community?

Speed up the process, which is what we are doing.

Improve the Wikipedia page.

How can we encourage Forthers to submit proposals?

Speed up the process, which is what we are doing.

What are addtional topics for future standardisation?

How can we better support a Forth-200x Standard Test Suite? (hand over from Gerry Jackson to a new maintainer)

Have the test suite on github.com/Forth-Standard (Action: PK, AE)

Gerry Jackson should transfer this repo. (Done: Gerry Jackson, PK)

Reports

Chair

No report.

Editor and Technical Officer

AE has not done anything on the document, but PK has integrated some changes up to 2021 into the document. PK has has written code that converts this to HTML, for a static website. This has to be converted for use in forth-standard.org (with Web 2.0 features), Action: GW.

Still open: Domain transer from PK to Wodni&Pelc GmbH. (Action: PK, GW)

Treasurer

0 income, 0 expenses, 0 balance.

Consideration of proposals + CfV votes

Proposals - Call for Vote

[412] Recognizer committee proposal 2025-09-11 (recognizer-committee-proposal-2025-09-11 #412)

2025-09-12 03:56:07 - AntonErtl

Announce the CfV (Action: AE)

[272] Relax documentation requirements of Ambiguous Conditions (relax-documentation-requirements-of-ambiguous-conditions #272)

2022-12-29 19:25:35 - JohanKotlinski

Announce the CfV (Action: AE)

[263] Test Proposal (test-proposal #263)

2022-08-28 19:24:27 - GeraldWodni

Do nothing (still needed for testing)

Proposals - Formal

[311] New words: latest-name and latest-name-in (new-words-latest-name-and-latest-name-in #311)

2023-10-23 01:13:22 - ruv

Discussion about whether to throw or return 0.

Change latest-name to return 0 and not throw. Action: RP

And then go to CfV.

[291] Obsolescence for SAVE-INPUT and RESTORE-INPUT (obsolescence-for-save-input-and-restore-input #291)

2023-03-02 19:04:49 - ruv

Go to CfV (Action: GW, AE)

[252] Exclude zero from the data types that are identifiers (exclude-zero-from-the-data-types-that-are-identifiers #252)

2022-08-13 23:24:52 - ruv

Look for Federico de Ceballos’ result from many years ago (Done: AE)

Possibly revise the proposal (Action: RP)

[251] Clarification for execution token (clarification-for-execution-token #251)

2022-08-13 20:16:29 - ruv

Update the proposal to improved unpublished version (Action: ruv)

[206] PLACE +PLACE (place-place #206)

2021-07-30 11:19:29 - UlrichHoffmann

Update the proposal and go to CfV (Action:UH)

[184] EMIT and non-ASCII values (emit-and-non-ascii-values #184)

2021-04-03 15:34:40 - AntonErtl

Go to CfV (Action: AE)

[114] Case insensitivity (case-insensitivity #114)

2019-09-06 18:27:48 - AntonErtl

Go to CfV (and #73 at the same time) (Action: AE)

[90] Revise Rationale of Buffer: (revise-rationale-of-buffer- #90)

2019-07-06 15:45:25 - AntonErtl

Go to committee vote (Done: PK) Vote #42: 10Y:0:0

[73] Case sensitivity (case-sensitivity #73)

2018-11-03 13:15:53 - ruv

Go to CfV (and #114 at the same time) (Action: AE)

[60] Tighten the specification of SYNONYM (version 1) (tighten-the-specification-of-synonym-version-1- #60)

2018-06-08 10:09:18 - GerryJackson

Gforth and VFX pass the test suite. SwiftForth also does according to r1102.

Go to CfV. (Action: AE)

[34] BL rationale is wrong (bl-rationale-is-wrong #34)

2017-10-25 11:35:46 - AntonErtl

Go to committee vote (Done: GW) Vote #43: 10Y:0:0

Proposals - Informal

[446] Semantic Source Modes (semantic-source-modes #446)

2026-09-01 21:49:03 - NathanHesterman

Answer by committee and moved to considered. (Done: AE)

[443] AI Test Proposal (ai-test-proposal #443)

2026-07-31 10:12:39 - GeraldWodni

Moved to considered.

[428] word PERFORM (word-perform #428)

2026-04-23 13:03:44 - agsb

Reply by committee and moved to considered. (Done: GW)

[424] Forth Standards, Backward Compatibility and modern state of the art words with their historical traditional counterparts. (forth-standards-backward-compatibility-and-modern-state-of-the-art-words-with-their-historical-traditional-counterparts- #424)

2026-02-12 09:39:50 - EkkehardSkirl

Reply by committee and move to considered. (Done: AE)

Date of next meeting